Comments on: Job Hurdles With Potential Holes Behind Them http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/ Smart Reasons to Save, Use and Invest Money Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:16:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Katana: Switching Gears For The Summer | Financial Samurai http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1522 The Katana: Switching Gears For The Summer | Financial Samurai Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:06:13 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1522 [...] loves where he lives pollute your mind with sunshine!  Well done Jeff & Red!* “Job Hurdles With Potential Holes Behind Them” by Don-san highlights something I failed to highlight in “Overcoming The Wall” [...] [...] loves where he lives pollute your mind with sunshine!  Well done Jeff & Red!* “Job Hurdles With Potential Holes Behind Them” by Don-san highlights something I failed to highlight in “Overcoming The Wall” [...]

]]> By: Money Reasons http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1521 Money Reasons Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:31:36 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1521 @Financial Samurai The manager that is an idiot has connections higher up, so he's got a golden ticket... Even though he shouldn't be a manager, we'll do just fine as long as the executive VP is on his side. This past Thursday, I've even heard his immediate director call him something negative... @Financial Samurai
The manager that is an idiot has connections higher up, so he’s got a golden ticket… Even though he shouldn’t be a manager, we’ll do just fine as long as the executive VP is on his side.

This past Thursday, I’ve even heard his immediate director call him something negative…

]]> By: Financial Samurai http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1520 Financial Samurai Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:14:21 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1520 Shall we bother to give the manager a 2nd chance, and if he comes through in the 2nd year, is that good enough? Shall we bother to give the manager a 2nd chance, and if he comes through in the 2nd year, is that good enough?

]]> By: Money Reasons http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1519 Money Reasons Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:04:41 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1519 @Financial Samurai Easy, it's when they say something that isn't true (lol). Yes, this guy promised a promotion to a few of his subordinates, but none of them got promoted. He lied about other things too, but it's not worth mentioning! After the guy that I worked for... I'll take the written contract :) I'm with a different manager now, he's better, but limited... @Financial Samurai
Easy, it’s when they say something that isn’t true (lol). Yes, this guy promised a promotion to a few of his subordinates, but none of them got promoted. He lied about other things too, but it’s not worth mentioning!

After the guy that I worked for… I’ll take the written contract :)

I’m with a different manager now, he’s better, but limited…

]]> By: Financial Samurai http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1518 Financial Samurai Sat, 26 Jun 2010 04:27:26 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1518 Hi Don-san, good post you have here. How do we know whether our managers will lie? I guess they can get away with it once or twice, but three times,... no no. I have a manager who promised a promotion but it didn't happen... but it finally did the following year. It's frustrating. Would you take a guaranteed written contract raise for two years at another shop, or trust your manager's verbal promise of a raise?? Sam Hi Don-san, good post you have here.

How do we know whether our managers will lie? I guess they can get away with it once or twice, but three times,… no no.

I have a manager who promised a promotion but it didn’t happen… but it finally did the following year. It’s frustrating.

Would you take a guaranteed written contract raise for two years at another shop, or trust your manager’s verbal promise of a raise??

Sam

]]> By: Money Reasons http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1517 Money Reasons Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:47:33 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1517 @Everyday Tips Wow, more great advice! I think you could have actually made that comment a post in itself. Truly great information! Thank you :) @Everyday Tips
Wow, more great advice!

I think you could have actually made that comment a post in itself.

Truly great information!

Thank you :)

]]> By: Everyday Tips http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1516 Everyday Tips Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:58:28 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1516 I never had much of a career since my focus has been the kids for so long. However, I learned a few things through both my job and my husband's: *You have to advocate for yourself in terms of salary and promotions *The company will take advantage of you for as long as they can. I cannot wait until the economy turns around and employees have more options. I am guess people will leave their current jobs in droves. *Staying loyal is a thing of the past, for both employers and employees. In my opinion, job hopping is the only way to go. Had I stayed in my old job this whole time, I would have been so pigeon-holed and finding another job may be difficult since my experience was so narrow *Always keep your resume up to date. Be an active member of LinkedIn and network as much as you can. You are right, kissing up is important. Way more important than your pride in some instances. Some people need their egos fed so much that you have to kiss up. *If a headhunter calls you about an opportunity, go on the interview. Getting interview experience is invaluable, especially if you have not been in the job market for awhile. You never know - your next job might be just waiting for you, so don't turn your back at possibilities. To answer your question of what to do in the situation you described, I would say start preparing now to leave. Join some organizations, work on the resume, and get yourself out there. It isn't easy to find a job quickly anymore, so just start laying the groundwork. Call a headhunter that has called in the past if there is one. If not, reach out to a headhunter yourself. (Be careful here if your job would be in jeopardy if word got out. It is a small, small world.) I never had much of a career since my focus has been the kids for so long. However, I learned a few things through both my job and my husband’s:
*You have to advocate for yourself in terms of salary and promotions
*The company will take advantage of you for as long as they can. I cannot wait until the economy turns around and employees have more options. I am guess people will leave their current jobs in droves.
*Staying loyal is a thing of the past, for both employers and employees. In my opinion, job hopping is the only way to go. Had I stayed in my old job this whole time, I would have been so pigeon-holed and finding another job may be difficult since my experience was so narrow
*Always keep your resume up to date. Be an active member of LinkedIn and network as much as you can. You are right, kissing up is important. Way more important than your pride in some instances. Some people need their egos fed so much that you have to kiss up.
*If a headhunter calls you about an opportunity, go on the interview. Getting interview experience is invaluable, especially if you have not been in the job market for awhile. You never know – your next job might be just waiting for you, so don’t turn your back at possibilities.

To answer your question of what to do in the situation you described, I would say start preparing now to leave. Join some organizations, work on the resume, and get yourself out there. It isn’t easy to find a job quickly anymore, so just start laying the groundwork. Call a headhunter that has called in the past if there is one. If not, reach out to a headhunter yourself. (Be careful here if your job would be in jeopardy if word got out. It is a small, small world.)

]]> By: Money Reasons http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1515 Money Reasons Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:14:15 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1515 @Budgeting in the Fun Stuff :) yeah, not a bad idea. My job isn't too stressful, just uneventful (mostly). Some of the perks are nice too... It's hard to start something new with my kids so young. I don't want to miss anything! A new job would mean longer more stressful hours initially... I think I'd rather spend that extra time with the kids... @Budgeting in the Fun Stuff :) yeah, not a bad idea. My job isn’t too stressful, just uneventful (mostly). Some of the perks are nice too…

It’s hard to start something new with my kids so young. I don’t want to miss anything! A new job would mean longer more stressful hours initially… I think I’d rather spend that extra time with the kids…

]]> By: Budgeting in the Fun Stuff http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1514 Budgeting in the Fun Stuff Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:51:52 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1514 Yeah, I was going to mention job hopping. The only way I will ever really increase my earnings is by leaving this company. I choose not to since my job is low stress, but if that ever changes, "so long sucka's" as they say, lol! Yeah, I was going to mention job hopping. The only way I will ever really increase my earnings is by leaving this company. I choose not to since my job is low stress, but if that ever changes, “so long sucka’s” as they say, lol!

]]> By: Money Reasons http://www.moneyreasons.com/2010/06/job-hurdles-with-potential-holes-behind-them/comment-page-1/#comment-1513 Money Reasons Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:56:26 +0000 http://www.moneyreasons.com/?p=2360#comment-1513 @Jin6655321 Wow, excellent add! In my industry, it's a know fact that if you job hop you get ahead. I haven't done that type of maneuver enough during my working career! Perhaps it's time I seriously look at doing such a change! @Jin6655321
Wow, excellent add!

In my industry, it’s a know fact that if you job hop you get ahead. I haven’t done that type of maneuver enough during my working career! Perhaps it’s time I seriously look at doing such a change!

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