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Paying Allowances From Dividend Stocks

January 13th, 2011

Paying Allowances From Dividend Stocks:

First let me start by saying that I wish I had thought of this 10+ years ago!  The following is an idea that I would have liked to pursue for my kids, and while it’s still possible, the upfront investment for such a dividend stream is a bit steep for me right now.  So instead, I will introduce the idea to see if others may find value in such simple idea.

What I wish I would have done was buy some solid, reliable dividend stocks each year and have the dividend payout from the stock go to my kids as an allowance instead of me paying for their allowance out of my wallet each and every week.  Of course, the earlier years of the dividend payout would go directly back into the dividend paying stock during the ages when the child was too young to receive such an allowance.

I might even have the kids receive the payout once a quarter, just to get them use to quarterly payouts instead of weekly ones.

The following chart calculation is a very simplified table that will give a ballpark number.

             
        Div Payout Div Interest  
  Year 1 Contribs. Principle Percent Amount  
  1 1200 $1,200 0.05 $60  
  2 1200 $2,460 0.05 $123  
  3 1200 $3,783 0.05 $189  
  4 1200 $5,172 0.05 $259  
  5 1200 $6,631 0.05 $332  
  6 1200 $8,162 0.05 $408  
  7 1200 $9,770 0.05 $489  
  8 1200 $11,459 0.05 $573  
  9 1200 $13,232 0.05 $662  
  10 1200 $15,093 0.05 $755  
             
          52  
          $14.51  
             

So using the table above, the payout in a childs 10th year could be $14 dollar based on a 5% dividend payout rate.  The table above doesn’t take into account taxes, so the actual dividend payout will be a bit lower that the number suggested in the table, but not enough to discount the value of the information!

Yet Another Stealth Emergency Fund:

Recently, I wrote about my stealth emergency fund, and these stocks could be used as yet another form of an emergency fund.  Would I be tempted to use these dividend stocks for an emergency first?  No, only after the regular savings from an emergency fund has been depleted would I consider these stocks.  That said, it’s still definitely a consideration!

Conclusion:

I was considering trying this idea, but after writing about it, I think I may have missed the boat on the implementation of this concept.  It would have be easier to implement the idea earlier while your kids are very young!  So while I really like this idea, I will put my money in dividend yielding stock for other purposes than and allowance fund.  If I have the other ideas fully funded, I make come back to this one and give it a try.

Have you consider creating such an idea for your kid allowance needs?  It’s kind of a win-win if you think about it.  You get to pay your kids an allowance, and at the same time you have a portfolio of dividend stocks that may continue to grow!

-MR

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Dividend Stocks, Free Lunch Experiment #7

January 12th, 2011

Dividend Stocks, Lunch Experiment Update:

Dividend Experiment

Dividend Experiment Update #7

This month, capital appreciation in the value of the stocks in the experiment has overall risen because of EV Energy (EVEP).  Ironically, EVEP is also the stock that I bought the least amount of.  Surprisingly, the market value of EV Energy has just surpassed the market value of ANH.  This is surprising because ANH cost me double the amount as EVEP did.  In fact, the share price of EVEP is starting to worry me a bit; it’s starting to look frothy so I’ll probably review the financial stats to make sure it’s still solid and not overbought.

The other two stocks in the experiment have remained close to the market values that they were last month.

Background:

The Free Lunch Experiment, which invests in dividend stocks so that I can use the yield to pay for my weekly lunches, is my first true experiment here at MoneyReasons.com and was started with the article called: “Paying An Adult Allowance, A Lunch Experiment”.  As explained in the article link in the preceding sentence, the money used in this experiment is free money because I would have spent it on eating lunch out with friends at work anyway (and yes my friends still go out everyday).  This means that if I were to lose all the money in this experiment tomorrow (very unlikely), I would really be out nothing!

By having free money fund this experiment, I’m able to take additional risks that I normal wouldn’t consider.

In some perverse way, one could consider the experiment money a form of emergency money, but I prefer not to make that claim…

Stock Name Anworth EV Energy Chimera
Stock Ticket ANH EVEP CIM
# of Shares 260 45 600
Orig. Price $7.84 $23.25 $4.01
Curr. Price $6.95 $42.33 $4.07
Orig Cost $2,038.14 $1,046.25 $2,404.80
Curr Value $1,807.00 $1,904.85 $2,442.00
Annual Yield 13.24% 7.15% 17.69%
Actual Dividend $59.80 $34.07 $108.00
Total Dividends $807.48
52 weeks 52
Dividend / week $15.53
Total Gain in
Stock Apprec. $664.66
% Change 12.11%
Amt Loaned to myself: $1,726
Amt paid back to date: $1,299
Amt Still Owned: $427

Priming the Pump:

While the money involved in this experiment is technically free money, to expedite the stock purchase funding I’ve borrowed money from my checking account a few times just to speed up the process (thus priming the pump so to speak).  Of course I paid myself back too though.  Currently, I still owe myself $427.

Evolution of the Experiment:

Now that the experiment is established and generating a decent dividend stream, after I pay off my loan to myself in mid-March 2011, I may cut back on the amount that I borrow from my checking account or not borrow any more from myself at all.  This would mean that I would just save the money by not eating out first, then purchase additional stock after I save up enough to make a decent buy.  I many use some of my dividend money to help purchase future shares too.

Hopefully, by the next monthly update I’ll be able to provide more details about the specific of the future changes to this experiment.

-MR

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Dividend Stocks, Free Lunch Experiment #6

December 10th, 2010

Well, it’s time for another update!  The dividend payout rates have not changed and the overall appreciation of the stocks has raised!

The Free Lunch Experiment, which invests in dividend stocks, is my first true experiment here at MoneyReasons.com and was started with the article called: “Paying An Adult Allowance, A Lunch Experiment”.

In a nutshell, the experiment is that I want focused investments in certain dividend stocks to pay for my lunch when I go out to eat at work.

The real advantage is that the money I’m investing in, is money that I would have spent for lunch anyway.  In my opinion, this make this money free because it would have been spent!  So if I were to lose all of the money tomorrow, I would be sad, but it’s money that I wouldn’t have had anyway had I not started the experiment.  In other words, the first dollar saved was a 100% gain on what I had previously, which was a spent dollar.

So much like the reference in the movie “Blade“, the Lunch Experiment has all of the advantages, and not of the disadvantages of being an stock dividend investment.

Stock Name Anworth EV Energy Chimera
Stock Ticket ANH EVEP CIM
# of Shares 260 45 600
Orig. Price $7.84 $23.25 $4.01
Curr. Price $7.14 $38.25 $4.13
Orig Cost $2,038.14 $1,046.25 $2,404.80
Curr Value $1,856.40 $1,721.25 $2,478.00
Annual Yield 12.89% 7.92% 17.43%
Actual Dividend $59.80 $34.07 $108.00
Total Dividends $807.48
52 weeks 52
Dividend / week $15.53
Total Gain in
Stock Apprec. $566.46
% Change 10.32%
Amt Loaned to myself: $1,726
Amt paid back to date: $1,139
Amt Still Owned: $587.00

Previous Update:  Dividend Stocks, Lunch Experiment Update #5

Thanks for following me and my “free lunch” experiment!

-MR

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Paying A Kid’s Allowance With Dividends From Stocks

October 12th, 2010

First, I made a mistake!  I now wish I would have put the money I’ve been saving for my kids into a stocks that yield a dividend instead of a UMGA account for them once they turn 21

Then continue to invest money into a dividend stock ($125 a month) or dividend paying mutual fund, while using the dividend to pay for my kid’s allowances!  See the crude table I created below:



Dividend Pay % 4.00%






Weekly
Age
Contribution Dividend Total Savings
Allowance
1 1500 $30.00 $1,560.00
$1.15
2 1500 $92.40 $3,122.40
$1.20
3 1500 $154.90 $4,747.30
$2.40
4 1500 $219.89 $6,437.19
$3.65
5 1500 $287.49 $8,194.68
$4.95
6 1500 $357.79 $10,022.46
$6.30
7 1500 $430.90 $11,923.36
$7.71
8 1500 $506.93 $13,900.30
$9.17
9 1500 $586.01 $15,956.31
$10.69
10 1500 $668.25 $18,094.56
$12.27

The advantages of such a system would be as follows:

  • It could be used as a stealth emergency fund(s).  So if I were to lose my job, we would still be able to eat…
  • I would still have control over the money instead of my kids once they become the age 21 (or 18 depending on the state), like they do with their UGMA accounts.
  • Someday, when my kids are  looking to buy a house, I could give the money to them for help with the down payment.
  • Or I could use the money to help pay for college costs.
  • I could even be cruel and decided to keep the money for myself.  Look out Hawaii, here I come!!!

The points above are excellent reasons why just buying stock with dividend in my own name is better than their names!

After some reasonable success with my Lunch Experiment, I’ve been wanting to create new stock dividend fund anyway!

The key to such a “Kid’s Allowance” stock dividend fund would be to start saving for the fund very early.  Perhaps even before the child is born!  And of course to continue to keep putting money into the investment each year!

What say you?  If you were newly married, would you consider creating such a fund now?  Perhaps buying a great monthly dividend stock like Realty One “O”

-MR

Dividend Stocks, Lunch Experiment Update #4

September 28th, 2010

It’s time for my Dividend Stocks Update on my Lunch Experiment!

For the first 2 stocks in my experiment, I borrowed money from my checking account so I could seed the money for the initial investment.  But since I fully paid myself back on the first two stocks (ANH and EVEP), I decided to take borrow more money from my checking account so I could purchase some shares of another dividend stock

This time I chose a dividend stock called Chimera (another REIT).  It’s dividend yield is a ridiculously high 17%.

Initially, I was only going to borrow $1,000, but I decided to bumped the amount up to $2,000. 

Since I’m getting money from my other dividend yielding stocks for lunch, I decided to bump up my weekly savings rate to $60.  So I should be able to pay myself back in less than 33 weeks (sometime in mid-May 2011).

Here is my Dividend Stocks for my Lunch Experiment Spreadsheet:

Stock Name Anworth EV Energy Chimera
Stock Ticket ANH EVEP CIM
# of Shares 260 45 600
Orig. Price $7.84 $23.25 $4.01
Curr. Price $7.16 $34.26 $4.14
Orig Cost $2,038.14 $1,046.25 $2,404.80
Curr Value $1,861.60 $1,541.70 $2,484.00
Annual Yield 13.87% 8.85% 17.27%
Dividend / year $258.20 $136.44 $428.99
    Total Dividends $823.63
    52 weeks 52
    Dividend / week $15.84

 

Overall, I’m pretty please with the outcome of this experiment, but now let me explain some things about my experiment:

  • The money used in this experiment is basically “Free Money” because it would have been spent on lunch going out with the guys!
  • Since it’s “Free Money“, I can afford to lose it all of it if it came down to that!  Yes, I would cry a bit at first, but its money that would have been wasted on eating out anyway.
  • Since I can afford to lose this “Free Money“, I can take risks that I normally wouldn’t take.  I usually don’t recommend anyone buy a stock with a 17% annual return.  This dividend yield will come back to earth eventually!
  • This is purely for fun, that’s why I call it an experiment :)

And now for some interesting facts about my experiment results:

  • EVEP is up almost 50% from where I bought it at!  To bad I only bought $1,000 dollars worth.
  • ANH is down 8% from where I bought it at!  To bad I bought $2,000 dollars worth of this stock (booo)
  • CIM recently raised it’s dividend payout for the quarter by 1 cent.
  • The guys try to convince me to go out to eat with them more, but I’m content on doing the library thing.  Occasionally, I’ll go with them for sushi!  Sushi is my kryptonite when it comes to eating out…
  • I get a huge kick when I see the dividends hit my online brokerage account. 
  • Yes, I am nervous about the tax cuts expiring though!  Perhaps I’ll have to move my lunch experiment to my roth ira account…
  • Doing a real documented experiment like this has been a great experience!

I’m having a great time with this experiment, so far I figure that if the dividend yield rate stays the same (which is highly unlikely), I would be able to go out to lunch twice a week with the guys! 

Ironically, I no longer have a desire to go out to eat at lunch and spend so much money.  In fact, now I mainly go to the library at lunch and read other personal finance blogs and work on this blog!

What do you think of my lunch experiment and my progress?  Do you think I’m crazy for going with such a high stock dividend yield?

-MR

 

Related:

Check out the next update in my Lunch Experiment, #5.
Or go back to the previous update via my Lunch Experiment #3.

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